P.S: No hammerdins|||I would say hands down, a 1pt Smiter/Zealot.
Paladins get ez-mode access to double Spirit runewords (they don't have to wait for a 156str Monarch to drop, since all Pally shields get 4 sockets). So first off you can have dual Spirits on weapon switch to prebuff things like Holy Shield. Then you can get another 4 socket Pally shield with up to +45 resist all mod, and toss in 4 P Diamonds and be set on resists, even in Hell mode.
Then on top of that, you have SO many choices for easy find/make Crushing Blow weapons, not the least of which is the easy to create Black runeword (in a flail). Boom, almost right off the bat you have a massive 40% Crushing Blow... combine it with a couple of cheap easy to find Cathan's Rings, and you have Crushing and nice Life Leech.
Max Sacrifice (hopefully you can get some Cathan's Rings early in your lvls, and maybe some Sigon's, so you can use Sacrifice as main attack to start off). 1 point in Might and Smite early on, keep maxing Sacrifice but when you get access to Zeal get enough points to obtain 5hits and then go back to raising other skills. At lvl 30 start Maxing Fanaticism. If you are able to join pub Baal Runs and can fly thru the lvls, consider maxing Holy Shield asap, since the delicate balance of how much dex you need for max block changes not only each lvl but also with each skill point of Holy Shield. Much easier to get it out of the way early, then you can add dex much later in your lvls when you again need to add 1-2 points of dex per cLvl.
When done with your main skills, put 1 spare point in Salvation, and dump the rest in Defiance for the synergy to Holy Shield. So you will have maxed Zeal, Fanat, Holy Shield, Sacrifice, 1pt in each Smite Salvation and prereqs. For Bosses, hotkey over to Smite and bash them down fast with your Crushing Blow. For any other mob, use Zeal/Fanaticism.
There are all kinds of cheap gear that work well on this build, even junk like Goblin Toes. With the possibility of super high resists, max block, massive Defense bonus from Holy Shield + synergy (and possibly Defiance merc as well), and a broken skill like Smite that always hits even against Bosses, you really can't go wrong with this build. And on the off chance that you get some nicer gear on Hardcore, this build is also defacto for taking down the Ubers.|||I'd say Holy Freeze Zealot. Since you deal cold damage with synergized HF, you'll not be so dependant on weapon damage, at least until early Hell. Plus, HF warrants excelent crowd control and the shattering of corpses makes life easier agaisnt shamans and mummies. Biggest problem is lack of AR due to no Fanaticism, but there are way of dealing with that.|||Agreed with above. Knarl's post regarding equipment is still pertinent, but I'd go for a synergised zeal with holy freeze instead of fanat. Don't just use the fastest weapon you can find regardless of its damage, you still want decent physical damage so you can leech.|||Quote:
I would say hands down, a 1pt Smiter/Zealot.
Paladins get ez-mode access to double Spirit runewords (they don't have to wait for a 156str Monarch to drop, since all Pally shields get 4 sockets). So first off you can have dual Spirits on weapon switch to prebuff things like Holy Shield. Then you can get another 4 socket Pally shield with up to +45 resist all mod, and toss in 4 P Diamonds and be set on resists, even in Hell mode.
Then on top of that, you have SO many choices for easy find/make Crushing Blow weapons, not the least of which is the easy to create Black runeword (in a flail). Boom, almost right off the bat you have a massive 40% Crushing Blow... combine it with a couple of cheap easy to find Cathan's Rings, and you have Crushing and nice Life Leech.
Max Sacrifice (hopefully you can get some Cathan's Rings early in your lvls, and maybe some Sigon's, so you can use Sacrifice as main attack to start off). 1 point in Might and Smite early on, keep maxing Sacrifice but when you get access to Zeal get enough points to obtain 5hits and then go back to raising other skills. At lvl 30 start Maxing Fanaticism. If you are able to join pub Baal Runs and can fly thru the lvls, consider maxing Holy Shield asap, since the delicate balance of how much dex you need for max block changes not only each lvl but also with each skill point of Holy Shield. Much easier to get it out of the way early, then you can add dex much later in your lvls when you again need to add 1-2 points of dex per cLvl.
When done with your main skills, put 1 spare point in Salvation, and dump the rest in Defiance for the synergy to Holy Shield. So you will have maxed Zeal, Fanat, Holy Shield, Sacrifice, 1pt in each Smite Salvation and prereqs. For Bosses, hotkey over to Smite and bash them down fast with your Crushing Blow. For any other mob, use Zeal/Fanaticism.
There are all kinds of cheap gear that work well on this build, even junk like Goblin Toes. With the possibility of super high resists, max block, massive Defense bonus from Holy Shield + synergy (and possibly Defiance merc as well), and a broken skill like Smite that always hits even against Bosses, you really can't go wrong with this build. And on the off chance that you get some nicer gear on Hardcore, this build is also defacto for taking down the Ubers.
great post and thanks for the response.
So this is what i got from your skill distribution.
1 into zeal (or enough for 5 hits)
20 holy shield
20 defiance
20 fant
20 sacrifice
and rest into zeal?
you said to only have enough into zeal for 5 hits but then at the bottom you said to max zeal? Is it that important to max it or would it be best to max the survivability stuff first like defiance and holy shield?|||oh yea, by the way does anybody happen to have a link to a specific guide for either the 1 point smiter/zealer or the frost zealer?
I like to be very specific on my builds, thanks.|||i have a 91 paladin zealer
I max out all the synergies with zeal and fanaticism
defiance and holy shield would likely be essential for hardcore
with both on you should have little trouble through norm and nm
typical Zealer stats:
20 Sacrifice
20 Zeal
20 Fanaticism
20 Holy Shield
20 Defiance
10 Prerequisites/whatever catches your eye
the smiter takes the zeal backbone and puts point allocation to some other things. builds vary. here is one idea
A Smiter Build for hardcore might look like this:
01 Smite
20 Defiance
20 Fanaticism
20 Holy Shield
10 Zeal
10 Resist Fire (+5 passive to resistance)
10 Resist Cold (+5 passive to resistance)
10 Resist Lightning (+5 passive to resistance)
09 Prerequisites/whatever catches your eye
i suspect the only real threat to you in hardcore is elemental attacks and even a mob with the conviction aura in the area
this is why the 30 points into the three resistances would really help. The extra five percent in each element will cap you out at 80
rather than 75 in hell mode, and can even go higher up to 95 max with the right gear. with +5 against elements, huge defense from shield and defiance,
then smite against the Bosses, you should be well protected. you only need 4 points in zeal to get the 5 attacks. you could even put 2 more points each
into the elemental resists, or more if you choose not to use 20 defiance for instance. Nothing wrong with +6 resists or even more. You can also toss 1 point
into salvation at lvl 30 to get +60 resists. Don't do more though, it doesnt give passive resistance, and only works when turned on.|||Sorry I was a little unclear, but I was trying to give you an idea of how to progress your skills as you lvl up, not just a plain template. Zeal definitely does get maxed, you will need the dmg and AR bonus. But once you get enough points to reach 5 hits, you can put off maxing it for a bit, and get Fanaticism maxed first. And Holy Shield as I said, but only do that first if you can skip lots of hard solo leveling by leeching off Baal Runs.
Don't bother maxing Defiance early... that is your skill dump area for final build points. On my Paladin this ladder season, I went ahead and put 1 pt in Defiance right after I had access to Holy Shield, and then went back to maxing other skills. Now that my Pally is in his 80s and his main skill points are all maxed, I am finishing up whatever spare points I have into Defiance.
Hope this helps
edit: link you asked for
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=425449
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great post and thanks for the response.
So this is what i got from your skill distribution.
1 into zeal (or enough for 5 hits)
20 holy shield
20 defiance
20 fant
20 sacrifice
and rest into zeal?
you said to only have enough into zeal for 5 hits but then at the bottom you said to max zeal? Is it that important to max it or would it be best to max the survivability stuff first like defiance and holy shield?|||I'd say Frost Zealot.|||I would definently recomend having holy freeze in there somewhere. Frost zealots are great, but you can also use a holy freeze mercenary. The only issue I see is crowd control, and thats where holy freeze helps. The best defense is a good offense, so if you kill them before they can mob you... problem solved
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