2012年4月18日星期三

gearing up fanat/holy shock zealot

Hey all,

Having a bit of trouble gearing up my zealot in terms of choosing some things.

Basically the build is:

Holy Shock, Fanatacism, Sacrifice: 20

Res Light, Holy Shield: 10

Zeal: 5

Vengeance and prereqs: 1

I have a 3 OS mythical sword and a 3 OS scarab husk (only 424 def but oh well)

The following equipment i'm pretty much set on and dont plan on changing:

Crown of thieves (nice dex bonus helps AR and blocking, good leech)

Oath eth Conquest sword

String of ears (15% DR, 7% LL)

Stormshield (found following around a bot on a chaos run YAY!!)

Beyond this, stuff gets tricky. My thought is to use angelic ammy plus 2 rings to get my AR to an acceptable level. Right now I have one ring and one ammy, the other ring being an 8% life leech ring. I kinda like it because I leech back enough to not need a Dracs. I'm not sure how much missing that 8% will hurt. But this leaves me without the infamous ravenfrost, so I am still getting frozen sometimes.

I will probably use the 3 OS myth sword for crescent moon for stone skin/phys immunes. in the case of dual light and phys immunes, leave it on fanat and switch to vengeance. I guess a phase blade would be better for crescent moon, but this is what I have for now.

the real debate is the armor, i am REALLY torn between Duress and Gloom. Not sure how a 10-20% enhanced damage will help much, but it has better FHR and that 2 second freeze is tempting. Gloom on the other hand has better defense and resists, and that CTC Dim Vision screams crowd control (fanat archers anyone?). I'm having a really hard time choosing, mainly because once there are more than 3 players in a game, even with an eth oath and maxed fanat and sacrifice, my killing speed slows a lot, and duress would help a little with that. But the better resists and CTC Dim Vision is tempting.

Once I get my gear picked out, the plan is to socket the stormshield with whatever pgem I have the lowest resistance towards (looking to be poison at this point), but picking the armor is crucial with that because there is a 30% swing with fire, poison, and lightning between Duress and Gloom.

Also, not sure what boots to go with, right now I have Natalya's which have a couple of resists and FRW, so I might just stick with those for the resists. Gore Riders are tempting to look at, but I have to really keep an eye on resistances since I wont be using a paladin shield.|||Quote:




I'm not sure how much missing that 8% will hurt. But this leaves me without the infamous ravenfrost, so I am still getting frozen sometimes.




Are you saying that you dont have a raven frost at all? A simple20 dex raven only cost a pul so not expensive at all. Also if you want dracs you could prolly pay an ist or a random pair.

As for some of the gear I would prefer switching cot to guilli face and ss to hoz.|||Quote:








Are you saying that you dont have a raven frost at all? A simple20 dex raven only cost a pul so not expensive at all. Also if you want dracs you could prolly pay an ist or a random pair.

As for some of the gear I would prefer switching cot to guilli face and ss to hoz.




I'm very poor, never had a rune higher than Gul so a HoZ is out of my reach. Even if I could get one, SS + string of ears = 50% damage reduction. pretty hard to not be excited about that.

Something I did forget to factor in was CB, and if I switched out nats boots and went with Duress and gore riders thats 30% CB, which would probably be enough to potentially do ubers.

also, not being frozen is something i need to fix, you are right there. but wearing the angelic ammy + both rings is a huge boost to my AR. Just one ring kind of makes those two pieces not nearly as helpful.|||A few comments on your post

Firstly the build seems to be hybrid phys and light, which nay not be as strong as you can have. If you are trying it out, that's one but just be aware that builds like dreamzealers and pure zealers are far more powerful.

Secondly, if ou are playing online, it's very easy to trade for good items. After I restarted., it only took me a couple of weeks to get enigma for my necro. Try some trading to get ure items

Thirdly, remember that chance to hit is strongly based on the difference in character levels between u and the monster. Same with chance of being hit. Levelling up is more effective a way of getting better to hit than angelic, which is going to make your build very weak at hell

Fourth, you WILL need cannot be froZen and all pala mel�e builds need life tap proc, which either means dracs or exile. Being frozen will kill you in areas like CS and WSK|||Quote:








A few comments on your post

Firstly the build seems to be hybrid phys and light, which nay not be as strong as you can have. If you are trying it out, that's one but just be aware that builds like dreamzealers and pure zealers are far more powerful.

Secondly, if ou are playing online, it's very easy to trade for good items. After I restarted., it only took me a couple of weeks to get enigma for my necro. Try some trading to get ure items

Thirdly, remember that chance to hit is strongly based on the difference in character levels between u and the monster. Same with chance of being hit. Levelling up is more effective a way of getting better to hit than angelic, which is going to make your build very weak at hell

Fourth, you WILL need cannot be froZen and all pala mel�e builds need life tap proc, which either means dracs or exile. Being frozen will kill you in areas like CS and WSK




The holy shock is just for physical immunes. a physical damage zealot maxes fanat and sacrifice, which i have done.

I ended up going with Duress for my armor, but only got a 13% enhanced damage on the roll. Oh well.|||You could just easily use 1point vengeance for physical immunes. OR have lawbringer (Lem rune is the highest used) on switch. There is no reason to have 20 points used for a shock aura that is granted by items. Especially for the lone reason of taking care of a minor problem like physical immunes. Vengeance with a fast weapon like oath is plenty.|||Quote:








You could just easily use 1point vengeance for physical immunes. OR have lawbringer (Lem rune is the highest used) on switch. There is no reason to have 20 points used for a shock aura that is granted by items. Especially for the lone reason of taking care of a minor problem like physical immunes. Vengeance with a fast weapon like oath is plenty.




I was actually just thinking the same thing. Maybe it's just bad luck on my part, but it seems a LOT of the phys immunes I run into are lightning immune also anyway. Although I can't afford Dream, Dragon, etc...just FYI. Guess I'll just respec to Vengeance...not sure whether to go 1 pt vengeance and ramp up some of the resist auras, or just dump 20 into it and gulp blue pots like there's no tomorrow. or 1 pt redemption maybe?

or just go 1 pt vengeance and max defiance for the passive defense bonus, but that might be a waste as long as i can get max block.|||I figured you couldn't afford the runes for the elite runewords yet, but you can still survive well putting 1 point into vengeance and having a "immune killer" on switch. There are plenty of weapons you can get for some pgems that dispose of physical immunities very quickly. And Remember Lawbringer runeword (if your on ladder) is amn+lem+ko in any 3 socketed sword, hammer, or scepter. This runeword strips most physical immunes by casting decripify at a very HIGH rate. Once you get decripify on a group of physical immune baddies...you can switch back to oath and wipe em out FAST.

Max Holy shield btw. |||Quote:








I figured you couldn't afford the runes for the elite runewords yet, but you can still survive well putting 1 point into vengeance and having a "immune killer" on switch. There are plenty of weapons you can get for some pgems that dispose of physical immunities very quickly. And Remember Lawbringer runeword (if your on ladder) is amn+lem+ko in any 3 socketed sword, hammer, or scepter. This runeword strips most physical immunes by casting decripify at a very HIGH rate. Once you get decripify on a group of physical immune baddies...you can switch back to oath and wipe em out FAST.

Max Holy shield btw.




Here's what I did:

20 - fanat, vengeance, sacrifice

10 - holy shield

5 - zeal

i put 20 in vengeance because if i run into phys immunes, vengeance's ele damage is based on the physical damage of your weapon. 20 vengeance and oath should be able to deal with the phys immunes pretty well. I am debating on putting 1 pt into redemption and using that while using vengeance. It will replenish the mana i will blow through as well as help make up for the reduced leeching since i will only be hitting 1 target at a time. or maybe put 5 points or so into conviction and use that only for physical immunes.

i still have some points left, 12 i think...why do you say max holy shield? i have 10 in it right now and i have max block, so i'm not sure why i would need to raise it more.

good point about lawbringer, except that i plan on trading for an atma's for the AR bonus and CTC amp damage. with a 4 frame zeal and maxed fanatacism, that amp damage should proc pretty well. I'm also going to get laying of hands for the 50% fire resist, and the 350% damage to demons will be nuts...350% damage to demons + amp damage + eth oath + max fanat and sacrifice should = bad day to be a demon. In theory, anyhow.|||Quote:








Here's what I did:

20 - fanat, vengeance, sacrifice

10 - holy shield

5 - zeal

i put 20 in vengeance because if i run into phys immunes, vengeance's ele damage is based on the physical damage of your weapon. 20 vengeance and oath should be able to deal with the phys immunes pretty well. I am debating on putting 1 pt into redemption and using that while using vengeance. It will replenish the mana i will blow through as well as help make up for the reduced leeching since i will only be hitting 1 target at a time. or maybe put 5 points or so into conviction and use that only for physical immunes.

i still have some points left, 12 i think...why do you say max holy shield? i have 10 in it right now and i have max block, so i'm not sure why i would need to raise it more.

good point about lawbringer, except that i plan on trading for an atma's for the AR bonus and CTC amp damage. with a 4 frame zeal and maxed fanatacism, that amp damage should proc pretty well. I'm also going to get laying of hands for the 50% fire resist, and the 350% damage to demons will be nuts...350% damage to demons + amp damage + eth oath + max fanat and sacrifice should = bad day to be a demon. In theory, anyhow.




20 points in vengeance, that will do.

I guess you don't need to max holy shield if you know your going to have max block at your most optimal level. I maxed it for the huge defense bonus + the extra block. That way I was able to spend more points into vitality and less into dexterity.

There's not much more to spend points on if your a zealer. You could do some defensive auras for emergencies or traveling faster (vigor). Or you could go ahead and get more points in zeal for more damage/ar. You could also get blessed aim for a hidden passive ar bonus. I suppose it depends on what circumstances you think you will come across more often than not.

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